Friday, June 3, 2011

Installing swimming pool electrical?

how to properly ground pool pumps %26amp; lights?Installing swimming pool electrical?Have a Professional Do it.



As a Swimming pool technician, i can change a pool pump and attach the electrical from the old pump to the new pump, and that is ALL i can do. Anything more than that requires you to hire an electrician.



So... As the others have replied with this question, HIRE A PROFESSIONAL. There is NO WAY to explain how someone might have been injured, or even killed, should electrical current be introduced to the water through negligence if you try to do this on your own.



Remember, of all things, the Swimming Pool Light is a light that is under water, and while it IS designed to be water tight, over time the seals can crack, and leak, from old age etc, and should pereiodically be checked %26lt;once a year%26gt;.



Keep in mind too that in OLDER POOLS the most common pool light was the same as you would see in a old car with round headlights, it was nothing more than an automotive car headlight fitted into the pool wall and made watertight so that it wouldnt short out.



So with that said, spend the money, and know that you had your Pump and more importantly your pool light because it sits under the water in your pool bonded and grounded by a professional.Installing swimming pool electrical?I wouldn't recommend messing with anything involving electricity unless you are a pro. Let the experts handle it.Installing swimming pool electrical?the answer from electrical inspector is basically right.





Just hire a pro that knows pools very well



********BONDING IS THE KEY NOT JUST GROUNDING there are some parts of a pool would be come more dangerous if you ground themInstalling swimming pool electrical?NEC Article 680 describes all of the bonding and grounding requirements for swimming pools.



Article 90.1(A) states the purpose of the NEC is the %26quot;..safeguarding of persons and property from hazards arising from the use of electricity.%26quot;



Article 90.1(C) states that the NEC is not intended to be used as instructions or as a design or specification manual for UNTRAINED PERSONS.



I find enough licensed electricians who cannot tell me the difference between %26quot;Bonding%26quot; and %26quot;Grounding%26quot;, who cannot properly size conductors for the circuit, and who cannot safely install a pool, spa or hot tub.



Having said all that as a means of encouraging you to find a QUALIFIED licensed electrical contractor to install your pool; I will go on, but only a little.



The minimum size grounding conductor for a pool is #12 AWG INSULATED COPPER. Any wire size smaller than #4 AWG cannot be reidentified with phase tape. This means that this conductor MUST have green insulation. It must be run in the same raceway as the branch circuit conductors. It must originate in the main panel of the house. It must be properly sized per NEC Table 250.122 (but shall not be smaller than #12).



The pool pump and all other pool related equipment must be GFCI protected. GFCI protected conductors shall not be run in the same raceway as non-GFCI protected conductors.



All lighting must be installed according to its listing and labeling, and shall be grounded. All metallic, non-current carrying parts of the lighting system (along with most other metallic parts and appurtenances) must be made a part of the pool's bonding grid. This includes the reinforcing steel of in ground pools (except where coated with a non-conductive covering). The pool pump motor shall be included in the bonding grid, unless it is clearly marked as “double insulated”, AND, does not have a bonding lug on the motor casing.



All metal within 5’ of the pool must be bonded.



All conductors must be installed in an approved and LISTED electrical raceway, buried per NEC Table 300.5.



All bonding and grounding connections shall use listed fitting and/or clamps made of copper, brass, or stainless steel, and be properly sized for the conductors they are used with.



DO NOT use a grounding electrode (ground rod) as part of the Bonding Grid.



When a feeder panel (sub-panel) is installed, it must have a grounding electrode installed from an approved grounding lug or grounding bar attached to the case of the sub-panel (not with sheet metal screws).



The feeder panel must have any factory installed bonding jumpers removed.



The pump motor must be listed to US STANDARDS (not Canadian, unless you are in Canada), this is typically UL Standard 1081. The motor must carry the mark of the Listing Agency.



I could go on a lot longer, but I won’t.



Basically, hire a professional; he will understand most of this. You want your family to live long enough to enjoy the pool.



Also, check with your local Building Department; most Electrical Inspectors will want a pre-installation meeting with you or the electrician.Installing swimming pool electrical?install swimming pool electrical?

have it done professionaly done!

there is only one way to get a job, done safely, hired out!